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I haven't read Civil War II yet but from what I can tell from this book the premise is that an Inhuman telepath called Ulys
A couple books ago Ms Marvel was engulfed in the then-current Marvel event, Secret Wars, and thankfully came through relatively unscathed; this time around Kamala is once more sucked into the latest event, Civil War II, and it kinda ruins this one unfortunately. Not to say it's a bad comic but it's definitely my least favourite volume in the series so far. Good job, Marvel!I haven't read Civil War II yet but from what I can tell from this book the premise is that an Inhuman telepath called Ulysses can see the future and predict when crimes will be committed. Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel decides to use Ulysses to set up a kind of "future crimes division", arresting people who haven't committed crimes yet but apparently will, while Iron Man opposes her - the rest of the Marvel heroes fracture along these two figures and we have Civil War II. Minority Report anyone (which is actually referenced here)?
Carol asks Kamala to head up a squad of lil' fascists in Jersey City which, to Kamala's credit, leads to her eventually seeing past her Captain Marvel fangirl worship and realising what's happening is wrong. It's not the best story particularly as Civil War II, like the first Civil War, is so blatantly one-sided you couldn't possibly choose one over the other. Arresting people for crimes they haven't committed? Not to mention the flaws in relying on Ulysses to always get it right and will likely get it wrong sometimes, leading to arresting innocents who don't follow through with any crimes and remain innocent!
You either choose to live in a free society and accept that with that freedom comes bad people who will do bad things and sometimes good people will suffer those choices, or you go totalitarian, ie. PATRIOT Act madness and beyond where you sacrifice freedom for the illusion of increased security even though bad things inevitably continue to happen. This always - ALWAYS - leads to the people given this power over you to abuse that power. Civil War II looks like such a predictable and dim-witted story.
Anyway, yeah, this book is mostly a Marvel-ized Minority Report rip-off which I expect the main event will also be but on a grander scale. Spoilers don't bother me but if they do to you and you don't want to know any of the twists and turns of the main story, you might want to avoid this book until after you've read Civil War II as a major character death from that story is casually revealed here.
Dotted throughout are flashbacks of Kamala's family history going back to Pakistan's separation from India in the wake of Indian independence from British rule. Drawn by Adrian Alphona, I loved these brief sections, telling a real, compelling human story amidst the intrusively loud superhero nonsense. That's why I liked the last issue the most as Kamala visits her family in Karachi and we get to see Pakistani culture - it's perspectives like these that's made Ms Marvel such a unique Marvel title and I wish there'd been more of Kamala in Pakistan.
There's an issue where Kamala's school takes on Miles Morales' school at a science fair that was ok but mostly for Alphona's art - the story itself is pretty unremarkable. Also, there are a couple of good things to come out of the Civil War II storyline: Takeshi Miyazawa's art (he also drew most of the art from Ms Marvel Volume 3) and the developments in Kamala's friendship with Bruno.
It's not really G. Willow Wilson's fault - she, like everyone else, had to acknowledge and work Marvel's latest tripe into her series whether she wanted to or not. She still manages to pack in enough of the great character moments Ms Marvel fans read her comics for, and the art team is top-notch throughout, but I still wasn't as into this volume as I usually am when it comes to Kamala Khan, and that's solely down to idiotic event bullshit. Hopefully the series gets back on track with the next volume.
...moreAnd, in the wake of Trump's crude recent attempts to block scientific advancement (the attempts at silencing of the EPA, National Parks, and so on) with a focus on the denial of climate change, she is on her team's tri-state Science Academic Competition team, inventing solutions to (among other things) climate change!! Spiderman and Nova are on one of the other teams, so that's cute. This stuff is much more interesting than the required tie-in Wilson is required to make to the Marvel Civil War II event, which I am thankfully pretty oblivious about.
But there is something here that also connects to current weekend events Kamala has to work through: When faced with ISIS or any global threats, do you double down on the fascist/totalitarian approach and give up all your freedoms for the fantasy of "secure borders"? This is the question the USA and other newly right-leaning countries is in the process of answering, and it appears like they are making the wrong decisions, as Wilson seems to demonstrate here.
I loved the flashbacks to the Kamala family's life in the forties in Pakistan during the time of separation from India and British colonial rule. In the end Kamala visits her family in Karachi and we get to understand and appreciate Pakistani Muslim culture, imagine that. These sections are so much more interesting than anything superhero-related in this volume. I very much recommend Ms Marvel, ala Willow Wilson. If they can just get away from this Civil War stuff. You get to like her devout and interesting family, and appreciate her struggles with faith and superhero-dom.
I love the drawing of Adrian Alphona, too, the dominant artist in this series, and like his replacements in this volume much less. It's kind of a mixed bag, this particular issue, maybe 3 stars, overall, maybe 3.5, but I round up because of it's resistance to Trump! :)
...moreKamala really has to grow up in this one. She has to confront her hero in this story and stand up to her while her true friend gets hurt. There is also a crazy science fair competition. Big adult issues make their way into this issue. We also get a lot of Kamala's family history along the way. Kamala also makes a trip to Karachi where her family is from and see her roots. This
This is a good story, but not one of the best in the series. This is also Marvel's take on the movie 'Minority Report'.Kamala really has to grow up in this one. She has to confront her hero in this story and stand up to her while her true friend gets hurt. There is also a crazy science fair competition. Big adult issues make their way into this issue. We also get a lot of Kamala's family history along the way. Kamala also makes a trip to Karachi where her family is from and see her roots. This story goes in many directions, but the majority of it is about using someone with gifts of seeing the future to stop crime.
This is a decent issue, but compared to may other stories of Ms. Marvel, this was one of my least favorite so far.
...moreIt also plays out what has been Kamala's basic struggle almost from the beginning of her book: balancing her no
This was great. I don't know if Civil War 2 overall will live up to its potential, but in this volume, it does what the original Civil War event tried and failed to do. It presents a legitimately interesting moral dilemma and it doesn't (so far!) present either side as being ultimately good and right. This book in particular does a pretty good job of showing both sides of the argument.It also plays out what has been Kamala's basic struggle almost from the beginning of her book: balancing her normal life and her super life. And this is the point where it all goes very, very wrong. It's a little tough to read, especially if you love Kamala like I do. I also liked how Wilson brought in the history of Kamala's family. But my favorite issue had to be the souped up science fair, which brings Kamala and her Jersey City friends in conflict with Miles Morales and his Brooklyn classmates. It's a fun issue, and this collection really needed a fun issue.
...moreThe dual storyline that recounts Kamala's family history was a big plus for me because it puts her history and the CWII event taking place in this volume in perspective; It begins and ends with the Khan family in South Asia. This book comes close to being a polemic against the Civil War II event and I am not complaining about it. This makes very excited to see the new status quo going forward in this series.
...moreAs things are finally selling down for Kamala Khan, who is able to balance her life between high school and super-heroics, she is approached by her idol Carol Danvers aka Captain Marvel to supervise a young team that specialises in capturing people who are about to commit crimes, based on the precognitions from the Inhuman Ulysses Cain. Despite her initial enthusiasm, Kamala learns that predictive justice is doing no good as tragedy strikes too close to home.
Last time Ms. Marvel took part in a crossover event was 2015's Secret Wars as displayed in Volume 4 which was a flawless conclusion for the title before the "Marvel NOW!" relaunch as despite the apocalyptic event, G. Willow Wilson was able to keep Kamala's story intimate, making it almost a tearjerker. In the case of this volume, simply titled Civil War II, I can't give that same amount of praise as before that event does really affect Kamala's adventure and not necessarily for the right reasons. For starters, the central narrative involves an Inhuman who can predict crimes not yet committed, is clearly ripped off from Minority Report, that even a Canadian ninja refers to "that one movie with that short actor". That's right, this features Canadian ninjas.
Despite the superhero nonsense from the likes of Captain Marvel, the heart of Ms. Marvel is not about saving the world or even Jersey City, but the advantages and disadvantages of a teenager playing superhero, and how it affects her personal life. The best moments of the Civil War II arc – aside from the always great manga-ish artwork by Takeshi Miyazawa – are the first pages of each issue, showing Kamala's family history, starting with the Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 to present day, and how one golden bracelet is passed to the next generation, all of which nicely illustrated by series regular Adrian Alphona.
However, what stands out in this volume is issues #7 and #12. The former (drawn by Alphona) centres on a scientific school-off between New Jersey and New York, with Kamala Khan and Miles Morales aka Spider-Man competing against each other, despite being members of the All-New, All-Different Avengers. This silly battle of brains and wits is, I imagine, more enjoyable than the main Civil War storyline and a lesson is learned during this squabble about these kids from other schools shouldn't fight for the purpose of whose better.
Concluding the sixth volume with #12, in which following the personal turmoil of Jersey City, Kamala flies to Karachi in Pakistan, where she not only reconnects with her family, but finds her true place in the world. Illustrated by Mirka Andolfo, you do miss the sensibilities of Alphona and Miyazawa, but Wilson's writing is so personal and touching that despite being thrown into the Marvel eventful baggage, Kamala Khan will always come out strong and by the end of the book, she knows her place and hopefully Volume 7 will be a step-up.
...more10%, to be exact!
It also has so much nuance and interpersonal relationship development and character growth.
This is seriously one of the best ones Marvel has out right now.
Also, even in the midst of heartbreaking events (seriously, ow, my poor baby Kamala) this made me LAUGH. Out loud in public. Several times. I just love Wilson's style, and the attitude and heart she brings towards this character and her world. She takes the Civil War storyline and makes it personal for the volume, and for Kamala.
The first issue starts out very lighthearted, with Kamala and her friends at a science fair trying to win scholarships, and their competition is Miles Morales and his friends. Kamala knows his secret identity, but he doesn't know hers. This issue definitely got the most laughs (and I fucking love Skyshark. SKYSHARK).
Wilson sort of eases you into the heroes fighting heroes concept with this science fair battle, after which the real shit starts. Nobody apparently saw Minority Report in the Marvel universe, because a new Inhuman named Ulysses who supposedly predicts future crimes is now being championed by Captain Marvel as a way to prevent crimes from even happening. At first Kamala is all for this, but when she actually goes to start enforcing Ulysses' predictions, it quickly becomes apparent that things aren't as black and white as her hero, Carol Danvers, led her to believe. What follows is a series of events that culminate in (view spoiler)[Kamala completely losing faith and severing her bond with Carol, and a severely injured Bruno dissolving their life-long friendship. (hide spoiler)] It was all very compelling, even as I was upset to an almost ridiculous degree by what was going on.
In fact, my only real problem with this volume is something that was forced on the story by outside circumstances, and that is the behavior/character assassination of Carol Danvers. I love Carol Danvers. Love her. And this does not feel like something she would do to me. This is not the Carol I love. I know I stopped reading her books after DeConnick left, so I might have missed something, but I just can't with this whole storyline. It doesn't feel earned. It feels wrong. It feels like they wanted to create a new Civil War II and needed someone besides Cap to fight with Tony, and here comes Carol. (view spoiler)[Also, they fridged War Machine?????? The hell? (hide spoiler)]
I have no doubt that Kamala and Ms. Marvel will weather this storm. It continues to be an excellent series. I hope Wilson never leaves. The same can't be said of my love for Captain Marvel. I'm sadly feeling my decision not to continue reading her comics anymore was justified. I hope the movie version hands the comics their asses.
Read Harder Challenge 2017: A superhero comic with a female lead.
...moreNothing making me happier than diving into Kamala Khan's story and I think the last issue in this volume might be one of my favourites yet. I absolutely loved the back story into the Khan's family history and the panels set in Pakistan were utterly wonderful.
I truly can't get enough of this series. It's utterly wonderful.
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This volume was fantastic. I didn't realize the superheroes were splintered. In this volume we have Kamala working for Carol Danvers and trying to train up Carol's so called Cadets. Carol believes that she can stop crime from happening by using a system in which they can tell if people are going to commit a crime a beforehand. So pretty much everybody just think of the Tom Cruise movie Minority Report. And if you have seen that movie you know this isn't going to work and this is totally flawed.What really works is that we see Kamala start to be more vocal about not agreeing with Carol, even though she's her idol. Carol is hell-bent on protecting the city from crimes and doesn't seem to really care about the fact that other people could be hurt. When Kamala's friend Bruno is hurt due to actions by the cadets Kamala switches sides and decides she'll do whatever she can to bring down the cadets, even if it means taking down Carol.
In between all that the volume switches back and forth between Kamala's parents in Karach,i Pakistan and even shows Kamala going to Pakistan.
When Kamala and Bruno have a falling-out, Kamala is left twisting in the wind a little bit and trying to figure out where she belongs.
I did get a kick out of seeing this Ms. Marvel in traditional Pakistani garb. And I definitely loved her meeting another local superhero who maybe possibly could be a future love interest. I definitely liked the guy.
I think all in all though this volume was definitely about Kamala growing up and realizing that even though she admires and cares for Carol Danvers sometimes the hardest thing you can do with people that you admire and love is stand up to them. And then we have Tony Stark showing up by the way who totally kicks ass again in this volume by just being there for Kamala. I like to imagine him being a leader for all the younger superheroes because he's definitely had some hard lessons.
I obviously love the artwork and the panels are really good and your heart breaks a little bit when you get this see how much Bruno means to Kamala. I was surprised to not see Mike though and I don't see how they work with Bruno going to Wakandà.
The volume leaves Kamala on the outs with Carol. Though Carol does get rid of Basic Becky and her nasty self. Can't wait til the next volume.
...moreI always excited to get my hands on Ms. Marvel installments, and I particularly loved the sections in this volume that flashback to Partition and that part of the family's history. Also, there is this awesome science competition with very cool and somewhat dangerous inventions. The conflict between being a good superhero and being a good friend comes to a head with this installment, and it's always hard when you realize that your hero might not be worth all that worship. I also really
3.5 stars.I always excited to get my hands on Ms. Marvel installments, and I particularly loved the sections in this volume that flashback to Partition and that part of the family's history. Also, there is this awesome science competition with very cool and somewhat dangerous inventions. The conflict between being a good superhero and being a good friend comes to a head with this installment, and it's always hard when you realize that your hero might not be worth all that worship. I also really liked the tie-ins to some current affairs, and the art is really good. I had some issues with the pacing of this one and don't love all the fight sequences, but I loved the Partition/Pakistan plot lines enough to round up.
...moreOhnonono, how can it be?? I LOVE Captain Marvel but this comic really started to make me doubt her. I absolutely do not agree with her actions and train of thoughts her at all! And I am very proud of Kamala steppung up and telling her she doesn't agree with what she's doing.
So, short recap: there's a new Inhuman called Ulysses who can predict crime before it actually happens. And Carol (Captain Marvel) had the idea of invoking a taskforce of heroes, who stop the crim
Actual rating: 3.5 starsOhnonono, how can it be?? I LOVE Captain Marvel but this comic really started to make me doubt her. I absolutely do not agree with her actions and train of thoughts her at all! And I am very proud of Kamala steppung up and telling her she doesn't agree with what she's doing.
So, short recap: there's a new Inhuman called Ulysses who can predict crime before it actually happens. And Carol (Captain Marvel) had the idea of invoking a taskforce of heroes, who stop the criminals before they commit the crime that Ulysses foresees and she put Ms. Marvel in charge of the group. This obviously starts to get out of hand because the group is putting people behing "inofficial" bars, before they even start a crime and it brings up a very interesting topic about how this could be just. Kamala only starts to question this when it's too late and one of her best friends gets hurt really badly. But she then realises that this cannot be the way of handling things and stands up against Captain Marvel, who is not happy at all. At least Kamala still has Iron Man on her side who seems to be very protective of her! (I really should start reading Avengers to see how their relationship grew this strong!)
The topic in this volume was really great and it was set after the happenings of Civil War II, so I understand that Carol has a strong opinion on how to do things after (view spoiler)[Rhodey died (hide spoiler)]. But I feel like she is really wrong on this subject and I can only hope that she comes to this conclusion at some point soon too.
There are 2 very big things I didn't like about this comic at all. First, the art: Ms. Marvel really deserves some highly talented artists that can bring the comic to life in a new way!! I appreciate the work the artists are doing right now, I really do, but let's face it, it is not on the same level as other high-standing comics in the Marvel universe! And second, the author really messed up a bit with Bruno in this volume. First of all, his girlfriend doesn't get mentioned AT ALL, so when Bruno was in the hospital with seriously life-threatening injuries, she was not there and when he decides to leave town for wakanda she isn't involved or said goodbye to as far as we know??? This can't be it.
...moreAh! This volume explored Kamala's roots, gave us a run in with Miles Morales, and... Zoe! Zoe, darling, we been knew!!! But it was still good to get in confirmed.
And then... and then it tore my heart out and tipped it to pieces.
(view spoiler)[I hope we'll see more of that guy at the end though. He and Kamala were double aesthetic in those Pakistani superhero costumes 👌👌 (hide spoiler)]
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Ah! This volume explored Kamala's roots, gave us a run in with Miles Morales, and... Zoe! Zoe, darling, we been knew!!! But it was still good to get in confirmed.
And then... and then it tore my heart out and tipped it to pieces.
(view spoiler)[I hope we'll see more of that guy at the end though. He and Kamala were double aesthetic in those Pakistani superhero costumes 👌👌 (hide spoiler)]
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You know, like a cut-rate Minority Report.
*shrug* It could have been worse and it could have had less impact in other areas. I feel sorry for one character in particular. ; ;
This series is kind of a hit or miss for me. For the most part, I'm just reading it for the inclusiveness and the cute Kamala, but sometimes it just feels like a rehash of other kinds of stories done extra-cheap.You know, like a cut-rate Minority Report.
*shrug* It could have been worse and it could have had less impact in other areas. I feel sorry for one character in particular. ; ;
...moreThings start with a light-hearted interlude that finds Kamala Khan on the opposite side of her Avengers teammates Spiderman and Nova at a high school science fair. As Civil War II sets in, Kamala's mentor/hero Captain Marvel recruits Kamala to oversee a "predictive justice" task force in Jersey City. But when people close to Kamala run afoul of the task force, the young Ms. Marvel faces dilemmas with no easy answers and mak
The Civil War II tie-in collections continue to roll out with Ms. Marvel.Things start with a light-hearted interlude that finds Kamala Khan on the opposite side of her Avengers teammates Spiderman and Nova at a high school science fair. As Civil War II sets in, Kamala's mentor/hero Captain Marvel recruits Kamala to oversee a "predictive justice" task force in Jersey City. But when people close to Kamala run afoul of the task force, the young Ms. Marvel faces dilemmas with no easy answers and makes some difficult choices, ones that take a devastating personal toll on the young heroine. In need of perspective, Kamala visits her grandmother in Pakistan, where she encounters a local superhero, the Red Dart.
As one of Marvel's higher profile books, Ms. Marvel can't avoid the company's big line-wide events. But what sets it apart from many other series is how writer G. Willow Wilson doesn't let the crossover upend the bigger story she's telling. Indeed, Wilson makes the tropes of Civil War II work for her series in a way that's unusually effective. Wilson keeps the action on Kamala's home turf and finds logical, elegant ways to draw in her large supporting cast, then uses events to push the evolution of all the characters' journeys forward. Wilson dramatizes Kamala's conflict in a relatable, affecting fashion that mines some real depth and pathos from the concept. The personal toll the events take on Kamala and several of her relationships gives the tie-in some actual heft and purpose in the context of the ongoing series. As always, Wilson has complete command of her characters' voices and finds intelligent ways to use the Khan family's specific history and culture to speak to universal truths. It's rather beautiful, graceful writing.
The art team of Adrian Alphona, Takeshi Miyazawa, Mirka Andolfo and Ian Herring do some lovely work, with imaginative layouts, creative designs and a warm, involving color palette. The artists excel at conveying the characters' turbulent emotions in a variety of clever ways, action sequences are well-choreographed and there's a good energy to the visual storytelling. Given the dialogue-heavy nature of this arc, a lesser team could've gotten bogged down in a static approach, but here, the artists always maintain a certain dynamism that adds to the dramatic heft of the central plot.
If all tie-ins were as well-integrated into books' ongoing stories as Ms. Marvel: Civil War II is, fans might fear them less. It's not an ideal jumping on point for new readers, but it's recommended for existing fans.
...moreBruno is the emotional ground of this story arc even though the
I'm only giving five stars because it was so readable amidst the heavy moral plot. Writing-wise it fell short a bit (predictive cheesy dialogue and cheesy humor from villains, weird unrealistic pacing, and not enough emotional beats to really keep me cookin), and I felt nearly all the action scenes were thrown in just because it's a superhero comic. Art for the most part was excellent, but I did strongly prefer the flashback scenes.Bruno is the emotional ground of this story arc even though the epicenter is Kamala's allegiance to Captain Marvel and her stance on predictive justice. I am appreciative of the character development, though it feels like Bruno was built up just to disappear. I suppose not really caring about Civil War II hindered me from actually understanding Carol Danvers' mindset because I felt the whole plot point was pretty unsubstantiated. Something about Rhodey dying is important I guess... Will keep reading.
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